ESP Ep. 75: Milestone 75th Episode with Nick & Brock

In this milestone 75th episode of the Easier Said Podcast, Nick Kilionski returns to interview host Brock Roggie in a reflective, honest look back at the journey so far. The conversation revisits where the podcast began, the original vision behind it, and how that vision has evolved through seasons of uncertainty, growth, and refinement. Brock opens up about the “messy middle” of building something meaningful, sharing how the show’s purpose shifted along the way as real-life struggles, doubt, and clarity collided. What began as an idea became a mission, shaped by conversations that cut deeper and mattered more than expected.

From there, the episode dives into the human side of the story: the flaws, challenges, and moments that convicted both host and listeners alike. Brock reflects on the lessons learned, the practical takeaways from dozens of powerful guests, and the unseen work behind producing each episode. The discussion also explores the spiritual weight carried throughout the show, how “iron sharpening iron” became more than a phrase, and instead a call to discipline, courage, and intentional living. Enjoy!

Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Remarks & Introduction
• 7:22 “The Messy Middle”
• 11:05 Podcast Origins & Initial Vision
• 18:12 Purpose Shift
• 22:11 The Relatable Struggles
• 27:36 Major Human Flaws
• 36:30 Convicting Moments
• 40:27 Practical Applications & Lessons
• 46:05 Behind the Scenes & Podcast Production
• 58:24 Spiritual Challenges (Iron Sharpening Iron)
• 1:04:09 Training in Discipline
• 1:08:41 Don’t Wait to Try
• 1:14:06 Biggest Takeaways from the Podcast
• 1:17:01 1:18:30 Closing Remarks